First of all I would like to apologise for the long break, but after several requests I am resuming it now, I am hoping that my break has given me the refreshment to regain the initial humour and provide not only my observations but also the odd giggle or two. I must say I have failed in that respect with this post, I am not apologising for this, incest and rape are not funny.
There has also been a comment that I am treating as a request. The commentor complained that I was, in his words
" ;reading the Kike portion of the Bible
;attacking Christians for it
;being this retarded"
You can find it and my reply in the comments of Lev 19
So once I have finished second Samuel I shall move foreward to the New testement and do a gospel or two. I think it will be fun.
2 Samuel 13 King James Version (KJV)
13 And it came to
pass after this, that Absalom the son of David had a fair sister,
whose name was Tamar; and Amnon the son of David loved her.
2 And Amnon was so
vexed, that he fell sick for his sister Tamar; for she was a virgin;
and Amnon thought it hard for him to do anything to her.
Well I'll agree with that, if you fancy your
sister you are pretty damn sick.
3 But Amnon had a
friend, whose name was Jonadab, the son of Shimeah David's brother:
and Jonadab was a very subtil man.
4 And he said unto
him, Why art thou, being the king's son, lean from day to day? wilt
thou not tell me? And Amnon said unto him, I love Tamar, my brother
Absalom's sister.
5 And Jonadab said
unto him, Lay thee down on thy bed, and make thyself sick: and when
thy father cometh to see thee, say unto him, I pray thee, let my
sister Tamar come, and give me meat, and dress the meat in my sight,
that I may see it, and eat it at her hand.
6 So Amnon lay
down, and made himself sick: and when the king was come to see him,
Amnon said unto the king, I pray thee, let Tamar my sister come, and
make me a couple of cakes in my sight, that I may eat at her hand.
Is this really the David from first Sam? The
David that knew not to trust family, the David that through deceit
was able to overthrow his boyfriends father. Are we also expected to
believe that this young man is able to hide his desires to sire his
sister?
8 So Tamar went to
her brother Amnon's house; and he was laid down. And she took flour,
and kneaded it, and made cakes in his sight, and did bake the cakes.
9 And she took a
pan, and poured them out before him; but he refused to eat. And Amnon
said, Have out all men from me. And they went out every man from him.
10 And Amnon said
unto Tamar, Bring the meat into the chamber, that I may eat of thine
hand. And Tamar took the cakes which she had made, and brought them
into the chamber to Amnon her brother.
11 And when she had
brought them unto him to eat, he took hold of her, and said unto her,
Come lie with me, my sister.
Yes that does mean come fuck me.
12 And she answered
him, Nay, my brother, do not force me; for no such thing ought to be
done in Israel: do not thou this folly.
13 And I, whither
shall I cause my shame to go? and as for thee, thou shalt be as one
of the fools in Israel. Now therefore, I pray thee, speak unto the
king; for he will not withhold me from thee.
What? Ask our dad and he will give her to him.
That's really wrong, she's ok with shagging her brother, but only if
her father knows about it.
14 Howbeit he would
not hearken unto her voice: but, being stronger than she, forced
her, and lay with her.
15 Then Amnon
hated her exceedingly; so that the hatred wherewith he hated her was
greater than the love wherewith he had loved her. And Amnon said
unto her, Arise, be gone.
16 And she said
unto him, There is no cause: this evil in sending me away is
greater than the other that thou didst unto me. But he would not
hearken unto her.
17 Then he called
his servant that ministered unto him, and said, Put now this woman
out from me, and bolt the door after her.
18 And she had a
garment of divers colours upon her: for with such robes were the
king's daughters that were virgins apparelled. Then his servant
brought her out, and bolted the door after her.
19 And Tamar put
ashes on her head, and rent her garment of divers colours that was on
her, and laid her hand on her head, and went on crying.
20 And Absalom her
brother said unto her, Hath Amnon thy brother been with thee? but
hold now thy peace, my sister: he is thy brother; regard not this
thing. So Tamar remained desolate in her brother Absalom's house.
I have to wonder about Davids wrath, by Mosaic
law she should have been taken out and stoned after Amnon rejected
her. The text does not say this happened, nor does it say it didn't.
22 And Absalom
spake unto his brother Amnon neither good nor bad: for Absalom
hated Amnon, because he had forced his sister Tamar.
In modern english he sent him to
Coventry(refused to speak to him).
23 And it came to
pass after two full years, that Absalom had sheepshearers in
Baalhazor, which is beside Ephraim: and Absalom invited all the
king's sons.
24 And Absalom came
to the king, and said, Behold now, thy servant hath sheepshearers;
let the king, I beseech thee, and his servants go with thy servant.
25 And the king
said to Absalom, Nay, my son, let us not all now go, lest we be
chargeable unto thee. And he pressed him: howbeit he would not go,
but blessed him.
26 Then said
Absalom, If not, I pray thee, let my brother Amnon go with us. And
the king said unto him, Why should he go with thee?
28 Now Absalom had
commanded his servants, saying, Mark ye now when Amnon's heart is
merry with wine, and when I say unto you, Smite Amnon; then kill him,
fear not: have not I commanded you? be courageous, and be valiant.
29 And the servants
of Absalom did unto Amnon as Absalom had commanded. Then all the
king's sons arose, and every man gat him up upon his mule, and fled.
30 And it came to
pass, while they were in the way, that tidings came to David, saying,
Absalom hath slain all the king's sons, and there is not one of them
left.
31 Then the king
arose, and tare his garments, and lay on the earth; and all
his servants stood by with their clothes rent.
With all this tearing and renting of garments,
I wonder if this is why there are so many jewish tailors?
32 And Jonadab, the
son of Shimeah David's brother, answered and said, Let not my lord
suppose that they have slain all the young men the king's sons; for
Amnon only is dead: for by the appointment of Absalom this hath been
determined from the day that he forced his sister Tamar.
33 Now therefore
let not my lord the king take the thing to his heart, to think that
all the king's sons are dead: for Amnon only is dead.
34 But Absalom
fled. And the young man that kept the watch lifted up his eyes, and
looked, and, behold, there came much people by the way of the hill
side behind him.
36 And it came to
pass, as soon as he had made an end of speaking, that, behold, the
king's sons came, and lifted up their voice and wept: and the king
also and all his servants wept very sore.
37 But Absalom
fled, and went to Talmai, the son of Ammihud, king of Geshur. And
David mourned for his son every day.
39 And the soul of
king David longed to go forth unto Absalom: for he was comforted
concerning Amnon, seeing he was dead.
So Absalom has ran away, no doubt worrying that
David would not agree with the justice he served for the incestuous
rape of his sister, Davids daughter, and yet on the face of it David
seems to be happy that Amnon is dead. I have to wonder why he did not
do anything about it himself.